GOTT IM HIMMEL!

Going crazy with two posts in one day here, but today I’m finding yet more astonishing stupidity courtesy of PZ Myers’ Pharyngula site.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/09/the_pope_has_landed_immediatel.php#comments

Now, this post isn’t going to be about the fact that they go full-steam ahead to criticize the Catholic Church about their links to Nazism, whilst, somewhat ironically, Myers and his buddies totally fail to either recognize, let alone challenge (or, at least, pretend not even to see) the anti-Semites on the Rabbi Daniel Lapin post forming a little Hitler moustache right under PZee’s nose. Nope, that’s only what I’ve come to expect.

And yep, more misinformation: although relatively trivial historical misinformation if one takes into account the amount of holocaust revisionism going on, on Myers’ site. No, even on a subject like military belt buckles, Myers’ and his stoopid (mostly yank) mates in true Hollywood style manage to fuck everything up. I’m just fed up with the amount of times on the above linked post that commenters have pointed out that Hitler was a devoutly religious Catholic evidenced by (merely what they assume to be) the ‘fact’ that he made the Wehrmacht wear belt buckles with the motto “Gott Mit Uns” (“God With Us”) inscribed on them.

What utter, utter bollocks.

The “Gott Mit Uns” belt buckles were issued to soldiers long before Hitler’s Third Reich; in fact, they were issued actually BEFORE Germany even existed as a country. Although, the First World War example above dates from after the foundation of the German Empire in 1871, the “Gott Mit Uns” belt buckles actually originated as part of the uniform of soldiers of the PRUSSIAN army, dating back at least as far as the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71 – and, according to a source linked below, even as far back as 1849.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52434

What really pisses me off is when a fellow Pharyngulite even has the gall to tout someone like our Mein Kampf reading ‘freund’, ‘Tis Himself, as the expert and ‘final word’ on the matter:

Posted by: ‘Tis Himself, OM | September 2, 2010 4:20 AM
Bruce Godfrey #53
When the German army was established in 1871 Gott mit uns was inscribed on their belt buckles, a practice continued until the end of World War II. World War I army (Heer) belt buckle. The SS, both Waffen and Totenkopfverbände, had Meine Ehre heißt Treue (My honor is loyalty) on their belt buckles.

Must confess that I’ve no idea if the last part of the post is historically accurate – because, personally, someone as “fucked-up” as me is not into SS gear(!), but I DO know that the first sentence is utter bogshed. If you’re exhibiting yourself as some sort of military historian, please don’t give up the day job, mateyboy! Then again, maybe you could get a job as ‘historical adviser’ on Mel Gibson’s next epic – probably about how an outrageously camp army led by the Brits under Benjamin Disraeli invaded Poland in 1939 only to get their ‘asses kicked’ by a handful of US Marines led, no doubt, by Generalissimo PZ ‘Rambo’ Myers.

This motto was a specifically Prussian military one – an overwhelmingly PROTESTANT state of what became incorporated into the new country of Germany in 1871. As the link above explains, soldiers from other lander (like overwhelmingly CATHOLIC Bavaria, for instance) had totally different mottos on their belt buckles. Hmmm…most inconvenient for Myers and chums, eh?

Perhaps even more “inconvenient” is the origin of the phrase “Gott Mit Uns” itself. You’ve guessed it…it doesn’t even come from any of the states that made up Germany from 1871 onwards. Sorry, it’s not even from neighbouring Catholic Austria.

In fact, it’s from PROTESTANT Sweden – and it lies far before 1930s vintage – being a password that the troops of Swedish King, Gustavus Adolphus used during the Thirty Years’ War (for our friends with no sense of history) fought between the years 1618-1648. Hmmm…maybe they got Gustavus Adolphus mixed up with Adolf Hitler somewhere along the line – like (notoriously) post World War II German schoolchildren used to at one time when generations grew up never actually hearing of Adolf Hitler because their history teachers used to skip it out of the school curriculum (out of embarrassment/convenience?)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gott_mit_uns

Dear, oh dear, oh dear PZee…good job your academic discipline isn’t history, old boy!

By the way, I’m surprised that no-one brought up other mottos used during the Nazi period like: “Arbeit Macht Frei”. No, actually, I’m not surprised because looking at its origins ya’ll know why.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeit_macht_frei

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_Diefenbach

Yep, yet ANOTHER PROTESTANT saying, this time from a PROTESTANT pastor called Lorenz Diefenbach. Oh c’mon people; it’s all only just a google away!

Bah, so many inconvenient truths – and, more for wont of brevity than any inclination towards mercy, I’m not even going to go into what the acronym NSDAP stood for!

As for PZee, he’s finished with Jews and Catholics for today and he’s currently onto Muslims now…hey, but I know what ya thinkin’ ….but it’s not like there’s any members of the far-right infesting Pharyngula, or anything. lol.

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